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Sziget 2013 line up speculations round one

The same Fesztivalok Varosa that have found the latest batch of acts before they were officially announced also has a list of speculations for the Sziget 2013 line up, based on bands touring Europe and the area at the time of Sziget Festival 2013.

How about we all give it a look and speculate around it even more, like we do every year? Some of these acts are, we think, very possible additions to the Sziget 2013 line up.

Here it is, including the Sziget News readers’ input (so keep coming back,as the list gets modified every half an hour or so). Do you think there’s anything to add to it? Say it, along with your reasons, in a comment.

  • Anthrax (08.03, Germany)
  • Arctic Monkeys (in Europe)
  • Editors (in Europe)
  • Eminem (in Europe)
  • Fear Factory (08.08-11, Germany)
  • Flogging Molly(08.15-18, Austria)
  • Hatebreed (08.15-17, Germany)
  • In Flames (08.08-11, Germany)
  • Iron Maiden (in Europe)
  • Kaiser Chiefs (in Europe)
  • Kings Of Leon (in Europe)
  • Lamb of God (08.01-03, Germany)
  • Mia (08.09-11, Germany)
  • Nick Cave (08.15-18, Austria)
  • Pennywise (08.01-07, Russia)
  • Rammstein (08.01, Germany)
  • Ska-P (08.01-07, Russia)
  • Sven Väth (08.09-11, Germany)
  • System of a Down (08.15-18, Austria. 08.13 Poland)
  • The Misfits (08.01-07, Russia)
  • Volbeat (in Europe)
  • Trivium (08. 08 Sweden)
  • Deftones (Reading and Leeds, Aug. 23-25)
  • King Diamond (UK, August 9)
  • The Knife (in Europe in August)
  • Of Monsters and Men (Sweden, Austria, Norway in August)
  • Phoenix (France, August)
  • Paul Kalkbrenner (France, August)
  • Slayer (Finland and Norway – Aug. 9 and 10)
  • The Maccabees (Spain, Aug. 1-4)
  • The Drums (Spain, Aug. 1-4)
  • The Fratellis (Spain, Aug. 1-4)
  • White Lies (Spain, Aug. 1-4)
  • Dirtyphonics (Spain, Aug. 1-4)
  • The Klaxons (Spain, Aug. 1-4)
  • Totally Enormous Extinct Dinosaurs (Spain, Aug. 1-4)
  • Alt-J (Reading & Leeds – 23-25 Aug.)
  • Sub Focus (Reading & Leeds – 23-25 Aug.)
  • Skindred (Russia, Aug. 6)
  • Die Toten Hosen (Germany, Aug. 9)
  • Knife Party (Tomorrowland on July 27)
  • Bullet For My Valentine(Lowlands, Aug. 16-18)
  • Alabama Shakes (Lowlands, Aug. 16-18)
  • The Menzingers (Lowlands, Aug. 16-18)
  • The Lumineers (Lowlands, Aug. 16-18)
  • Sigur Ros (Italy – July, England – August)
  • Bloodhound Gang (Germany, July 26 & 27)
  • Wildstylez (Tommorowland, 26-28 July)
  • Axwell (Tommorowland, 26-28 July)
  • Steve Aoki (Tommorowland, 26-28 July)
  • Dimitri Vegas & Like Mike (Tommorowland, 26-28 July)
  • Armin van Buuren (Tommorowland, 26-28 July)
  • Jake Bugg (Reading & Leeds – 23-25 Aug.)
  • Fall Out Boy (Reading & Leeds – 23-25 Aug.)
  • Biffy Clyro (Reading & Leeds – 23-25 Aug.)
  • Foals (Reading & Leeds – 23-25 Aug.)
  • Palma Violets (Spain – July 18-21, Oslo – August 7)
  • De La Soul (Standon Calling, August 2-4)
  • Grandmaster Flash (Relentless Boardmasters, 7-11 August)
  • Ben Howard (Relentless Boardmasters, 7-11 August)
  • The Vaccines (Relentless Boardmasters, 7-11 August)
  • Basement Jaxx (Relentless Boardmasters, 7-11 August)
  • Everything Everything (Relentless Boardmasters, 7-11 August)
  • Black Flag (Hevy Music Festival, 2-4 August)

156 Responses so far.

  1. Crazyfrog says:

    + Phoenix
    + Paul Kalkbrenner

  2. Vicious says:

    Trivium (08. 08 Sweden)

  3. Sziget News says:

    @Crazyfrog: Do any of them have dates in August in Europe? We only found a lot of March dates for Paul Kalkbrenner and some for Phoenix in June. Or is it just wishful thinking?

  4. Sziget News says:

    @Vicious: added, thanks!

  5. asd says:

    Seeed is already confirmed ;)

  6. Sziget News says:

    @asd: even the best of us make mistakes. :) Thanks for pointing it out.

  7. apis says:

    You can cross Bowie off the list because he said he was never going to tour again.

    If they get Suede, I don’t need anything else.

  8. Sziget News says:

    @apis: Bowie is a longshot, but he said he’d do shows only if he would feel like it. So who knows. But yes, we’ll take him off the list.

  9. theshipscat says:

    Deftones? Playing Reading/Leeds Festival

  10. Sziget News says:

    @theshipcat: added!

  11. Hungry says:

    David Bowie? That’s very unlikely! He doesn’t perform anymore.

  12. Joep says:

    Biffy Clyro? Boys noize wasn’t already confirmed..?

  13. Sziget News says:

    @Joep: do Biffy Clyro have any August dates in Europe? None are listed on their site.

  14. Bender says:

    where the hell is john doe?!

  15. Mezzezo says:

    Billy Talent? Their show in budapest (in A38) for this spring got canceled. Only show announced for june so far. But who knows, mabye they will come to Sziget.

  16. Sziget News says:

    @Bender: he’ll probably show up when least expected. :)
    @metal: added!

  17. Mezzezo says:

    After some research on lowlands romours.
    Daft punk, comes with a new cd. Probably will tour this summer.
    Axwell, Amrin van Buuren, Steve Aoki, wildstylz are in europe.
    The Knife has announced to tour festivals this summer.

  18. Brecht says:

    Of monsters and men
    08-08 Oya festival Norway
    08-08/10-08 Way out festival Sweden
    15-08 Frequency festival Austria

  19. Crazyfrog says:

    Phoenix and Paul Kalkbrenner are playing in Paris in August

    http://www.rockenseine.com/fr/

  20. Sziget News says:

    @Mezzezo: we couldn’t find dates in Europe for Armin van Buuren, Wildstylez and Axwell in August. Added the rest.
    @BRecht: added!

  21. Sziget News says:

    @Crazyfrog: added!

  22. Christina says:

    Muse and Billy Talent!!

  23. Sziget News says:

    @Christina: Muse has already played Budapest on this tour, so it’s very implausible. Billy Talent, who knows, but they don’t have shows in Europe at that time (not yet, at least).

  24. Hungry says:

    Muse is playing at the Summer Sonic festival in Japan at the time of Sziget, just like Metallica, Linkin Park, The Stone Roses, Pet Shop Boys, Jake Bugg, Earth, Wind & Fire, Cindy Lauper and Peace.

    Steve Aoki, wasn’t he confirmed for Balaton Sound already? That makes him quite unlikely too.

  25. Roby says:

    Steve Aoki and Bloody Beetroots are confirmed for balaton sound; organizers have always said that if a band plays in one of these festivals (sziget and balaton sound) doesn’t plays in the other the same year

  26. Sziget News says:

    @Roby: that’s true, too. Took them off the list.

  27. Celeste says:

    Molotov

  28. IamBeeZz says:

    Arctic Monkeys
    Editors
    Eminem
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    please omg

  29. Sziget News says:

    @Celeste: is that just a wish? They don’t seem to have tour dates in Europe in August. Not yet, at least.

  30. Hungry says:

    Arctic Monkeys, Iron Maiden, Maroon 5 and Volbeat don’t have tour dates in Europe in August on their websites.

  31. Hungry says:

    And same for The Maccabees.

  32. Sziget News says:

    No, but Iron Maiden are in Europe until the end of July, so are Arctic Monkeys and Volbeat. Took Maroon 5 and The Maccabees out.

  33. stella says:

    the maccabees (along with many others) will play at arenal sound festival in spain early august and some acts (two door cc, ting tings, crystal fighters) performed both festivals last year…maybe totally enormous extinc dinosaurs? he plays at two european festivals in august so far.

  34. Fab says:

    I bet on Slayer!

  35. Sl says:

    Kings of Leon! x

  36. Sziget News says:

    @stella: added back! :)
    @Fab: added!

  37. Brecht says:

    @stella: Indeed, The Drums, The Fratellis, White Lies and many others can be added to the speculations!

  38. Sziget News says:

    @Brecht: true. Now they’re added.

  39. Mit Kok says:

    Alt-J is touring europe and the only date in august for now is 23 of august Reading/Leeds festival. Same story for Sub Focus

    Andy C, Wax Tailor, Amon Tobin, Skindred, Smashing pumpkins all in Juli at Dour festival and haven’t got anything planned during sziget. Except for Skindred Aug 06 Kubana Anapa, Russia, but it’s still possible.

    Disclosure Rock werchter / Heineken Open’er Festival juli

    I’ve heard that Sluwe Vos is likely to perform at sziget and in the dutch party train. I really hope this is the case he’s absolutely fantastic slapfunk house dj!

  40. Archer says:

    Queens of the stoneage would be nice ..

  41. Sziget News says:

    @Archer: 99% impossible. They’re playing Volt.

  42. Archer says:

    :( ..aah forgot that .

  43. God says:

    The Prodigy, Fatboy Slim, Skrillex are part of the Sonne Mond Sterne line-up in Germany in August.

  44. fish34 says:

    Usually there are many samne bands wiht the frequency festival in austria…..look at their lineup, there will be for sure many bands from their lineup playing at the sziget to, like SOAD i hope :D

  45. Brecht says:

    @God: Think you’re looking at the 2012 line-up!

  46. “Die Toten Hosen” and “Die Ärzte” perform together on the airport Berlin Tempelhof (9.8.2013). That would suit!

  47. God says:

    @Brecht
    You are right, sorry about that. The site itself doesn’t state that it’s 2012 line-up…

  48. Brecht says:

    Knife Party will play at Tomorrowland on 27-07. It may not be in August, but the date is closer to Sziget than the dates in the end of August (Reading and Leeds).

  49. Sziget News says:

    @Brecht: added that info.
    @Swing die Hufe: added!

  50. Joel says:

    Rammstein will headline VOLT festival!! (info from an organiser)

  51. Sziget News says:

    @Joel: did he give any other details?

  52. Brecht says:

    @Sziget News: The Knife is not Knife Party

  53. Joel says:

    Wu Tang Clan is a major target for Balaton Sound, but it’s not 100% they will appear there. Another news regarding VOLT that Billy Talent’s management still negotiating with the Hungarian organizers.
    Slayer will play Hegyalja festival.

  54. [...] Fact is that Rammstein are doing a festival tour this summer and have no Hungary date yet, which is why they’re in the rumors list. [...]

  55. Jupi says:

    I see Parov Stelar Band is also playing at Volt festival? Maybe, there is a tiny little chance, that QOTSA wil come to Sziget aswell :)

  56. Crazyfrog says:

    Joel is Volt’s John Doe!

  57. Sziget News says:

    Joel, so far you’re filling those shoes :)

  58. Carlo_VLD says:

    Let it be Knife Party & Eminem playing @ Sziget. It would be crazy :-)

  59. Archer Sterling says:

    The xx and The Subways seems to be touring and both have unbooked dates during Sziget..

  60. Sera says:

    Eminem & Knife party!!!!!!!

  61. Jim says:

    Biffy are headlining Reading / Leeds this year I am led to believe. Also have dates in July in Bilbao and Lisbon.

  62. eszter says:

    Green Day – European Tour (Italy, Serbia And Montenegro, Austria, Germany, UK, Poland, Russia, Spain… every country in Europe except Hungary)

  63. Sziget News says:

    @eszter: true, but not in August. They’re done with Europe mid-July, which makes it a bit implausible.

  64. Brecht says:

    Slayer, Bullet For My Valentine, Alabama Shakes, The Menzingers, The Lumineers got confirmed for Lowlands festival (16-18 august) in Holland.

  65. adam clark says:

    Would take Biffy, Bullet My Valentine & Knife Party … Slayer too if they hadn’t been ruled out earlier :(

  66. Bender says:

    @Szigetnews you can also add Sigur Ros. They’re in Italy at the end of July and in England at the end of August.

  67. Sziget News says:

    @Brecht, Bender: done!

  68. Theou says:

    On a side note, how many artists are usually confirmed during the early bird sales?

  69. MrCrash says:

    SLAYER play :
    August 7th Stockholm Gröna Lund Festival Sweden
    August 9th Oulu Jalometalli Festival Finland
    August 10th Oslo Oya Festivalen Norway
    August 11th Derbyshire Bloodstock Open Air UK

    SLAYER can not play Sziget festival
    :(

  70. verbludozis says:

    BFMV also confirmed for Anapa, Russia on Aug 4th.
    + Guano Apes there Aug 3rg and SOAD / Skillet Aug 7th

  71. apis says:

    It’s a long shot because these bands are not playing near Sziget and around that time, but there’s still hope, because they have gigs in Europe:
    July – Depeche Mode, Damien Rice, dEUS, Bush, Efterklang, The Smashing Pumpkins, The Hives, Iggy & The Stooges, Sting, Bloc Party
    September – Franz Ferdinand

  72. kim says:

    dog blood

  73. eszter says:

    @Bender hopes die last :)

  74. Fab says:

    Vaccines? De La Soul? Basement Jaxx?

  75. chudo_pahan says:

    Bloodhound Gang?
    07/26/13 Berlin, Germany
    07/27/13 Grossenfehn, Germany

  76. diseasefire says:

    basement jaxx and bloodhound gang would make my sziget

  77. adam clark says:

    as fantasy lists go ours is shaping up nicely …

  78. adam clark says:

    Does anyone remember when the second round of names were announced last year?

  79. Sziget News says:

    @Adam clark: ti does, doesn’t it? :)
    @Chudo_pahan: added!

  80. Brecht says:

    @adam clark: The second round was announced 20th of February 2012, and the first round was announced 24th of January 2012. So, next announcement for this year will probably take two weeks or more.

  81. adam clark says:

    @Brecht: cheers, 2 more weeks of speculation ahead…

  82. Carlo_VLD says:

    Alesso, Axwell, Steve Aoki, Dimitri Vegas & Like Mike, Armin van Buuren and Wildstylez confirmed for tommorowland 2013 26-28 july ;)

  83. verbludozis says:

    Fall Out Boy @ Reading / Leeds confirmed

  84. Jupi says:

    Jake Bugg and Foals are also added @ Reading/Leeds

  85. Sziget News says:

    @joep, Jupi, verbludozis: added!

  86. Hungry says:

    Jake Bugg will be in Japan during Sziget.

  87. Sziget News says:

    @Hungry: Only during part of it.

  88. Hungry says:

    In that case the other acts performing at Summer Sonic can be added to the speculations list too?

    Metallica, Muse, Linkin Park, Earth, Wind & Fire, Cindy Lauper, Jake Bugg, Kodaline, Palma Violets, Peace, The Stone Roses, Pet Shop Boys

    I think they’re all very unlikely, although of course I hope some of them will come to Sziget.

  89. Sziget News says:

    @Hungry: not if they’re not at all in Europe. Metallica, L

    Pet Shop Boys are free on part of the Sziget days, but, like The Stone Roses, have no other tour dates in July or August, the same for Peace, Kodaline, Cyndi Lauper, Earth, Wind & Fire and Linkin Park.
    Muse probably won’t play Hungary twice in a year.
    Palma Violets could be possible, which is why we added them.

  90. Fab says:

    Boardmasters 2013 7/11 August : Ben Howard, The Vaccines, Basement Jaxx, Everything Everything

    Standon Calling 2013 2/4 August:De La Soul

    Hevy Music Festival 2013 2/4 August: Black Flag

  91. Fab says:

    Also Grandmaster Flash at boardmaster…

  92. adam clark says:

    A few more of the bands playing at Brutal Assault – Czech Rep
    Aug 07-10;
    Opeth, Meshuggah, Carcass, Amorphis, Overkill, Atari Teenage Riot, Whitechapel, Entombed, Ihshan, D.R.I., Madball, Downset …

  93. Sziget News says:

    @adam clark: with no Metal Stage, it’s probably safe to guess that there will be a metal day again. And it probably won’t go into the extremes too much.
    @Tom: we won’t add them until they have some confirmed tour dates during that period.

  94. Fairway says:

    T in the Park (July 12-14, so within a month of Sziget) has:

    Mumford & Sons
    Rihanna
    The Killers
    The Script
    Emeli Sande
    Alt-J
    Two Door Cinema Club
    Jake Bugg
    Paloma Faith

  95. japajaa says:

    According to their website, System of a Down has gigs in Russia on Wed Aug 7th and in Sweden in Fri Aug 9th. Finnish rock festival Jurassic Rock (http://www.jurassicrock.fi/site/ only in Finnish, sorry) has also announced that SOAD is playing on that festival on Sun Aug 11th.

    Based on that information, it seems to me that it is implausible that they would be in Sziget during the same week.

  96. adam clark says:

    @ Sziget News

    “it’s probably safe to guess that there will be a metal day again”

    How safe? You sound pretty confident. The idea of a separate day is wrong in principle to many festival goers. The festival should be about integrating the various styles and genres of music throughout the festival proper.

    The idea of segregating metal, and offering a late card on a seperate day was a bad move last year and shouldn’t be endorsed this year.

  97. diseasefire says:

    sziget organizers would be damn stupid if they don’t book soad.. everybody is calling for them and they’re alredy in east europe in august! no i think sziget will book them otherwise it will be one of the biggest mistake ever!

  98. Crazyfrog says:

    + Deerhunter @ Off festival

    http://off-festival.pl/

  99. Jupi says:

    @diseasefire You’re damn right! If it is possible, they should play!

  100. theshipscat says:

    SOAD are now apparently booked for 7th, 9th & 11th August, which still leaves 8th & 10th free. Will be gutted if they’re not booked!

  101. Jupi says:

    Fingers crossed i guess :)

  102. Bender says:

    August 7, 2013 Anapa, Russia Kubana Festival
    August 9, 2013 Gavle, Sweden Getaway Rock Festival
    August 11, 2013 Mikkeli, Jurassic Rock Festival, Finland
    August 13, 2013 Lodz, Poland Atlas Arena
    August 14, 2013 Prague, Czech Republic Aerodrome Festival
    August 16, 2013 St. Polten, Austria Frequency Festival

    Very difficult they come. :(

  103. theshipscat says:

    As I said before, that still leaves 8th & 10th free, with the 8th being most probable, I suppose, when you look at the locations they’ll be in. I reckon, whatever happens, it might be worth a detour over to Prague for 14th.

  104. SkaPanda says:

    Boomtown Fair (8th-11th August, UK):

    Toots and the Maytals, Mad Caddies, The Selecter, Lee ‘Scratch’ Perry, Collie Buddz, Ska Cubano, etc. http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/405686_607741932585358_431544378_n.jpg

  105. Crazyfrog says:

    Greenville fest 26-28 july

    Nick Cave and the bad seeds
    Wu Tang Clan
    Bloodhound Gang
    Katzenjammer
    Bonaparte
    Gentleman
    Kaiser Chiefs

    http://www.greenvillefestival.com/line-up/

  106. theshipscat says:

    Yes please to Toots, The Selector & Lee ‘Scratch’! :) Not familiar with the other Boomtown names….

  107. Fab says:

    Motorhead (Wacken 3 August)

  108. diseasefire says:

    motorhead self confirmed for sziget! yeah!! lemmy :-D that will be my second time :-D

  109. ^^ says:

    Arctic Monkeys
    Kings of Leon
    The Vaccines
    The Horrors
    White Lies
    The Strokes
    Jake Bugg
    The Drums
    The Klaxons
    MGMT
    Editors
    Foster The People
    Metronomy
    Arcade Fire
    Modest Mouse

  110. lynet says:

    Bonobo 22 JULY Croatia ????

  111. Jupi says:

    Prince, Kings Of Leon, Mew, Alabama Shakes, Kashmir, Avicii and Beth Hart are added voor Smukfest @ Denmark (august 7-11) So maybe some of them will play @ Sziget?

  112. theshipscat says:

    Prince would be way too expensive, surely?

  113. chudo_pahan says:

    please, no Prince…

  114. diseasefire says:

    i place my bet on kings of leon

  115. theshipscat says:

    Yeah, I’m not that bothered about the Kings of Leon, but it’s getting increasingly likely that they’ll get announced.

    And, on the subject of announcements, isn’t it time that another headliner was announced? This time last year, we already had 2 headliners – Placebo and Stone Roses.

  116. Hungry says:

    If you compare to 2011, we know quite a lot now. That year the first official announcement came in March.

  117. creat says:

    James Blake is playing Oya Festival, Oslo and Way Out West, Gothenburg. Could be a safe bet (new album will be fire. Maybe Kendrick Lamar, hopefully the Lumineers, Moderat (?). Am dearly hoping John Talabot, Four Tet, C2C, Todd Terje, Henrick Schwarz, and Julio Bashmore would be a magical set of electronic additions. So we gotta wait until March for the first announcement? Would be hoping its somewhat earlier

  118. Master says:

    De la soul and grandmaster flash would be epic, Sziget needs more good hip-hop like the Roots last year

  119. apis says:

    Kraftwerk announced they’ll be playingu summer festivals.
    On 11th August they’re in Helsinki.
    http://consequenceofsound.net/2013/02/kraftwerk-announces-festival-appearances/

  120. diseasefire says:

    kraftwerk would be damn awesome!

  121. Jupi says:

    I heard a Dutch radio DJ talking about Gorillaz @ Sziget 2013! I know it’s not a real rumor that you can add but i thought it is worth sharing! That would be awesome in my opinion :)

  122. diseasefire says:

    we already have blur so it’s possible! maybe damon will make a double show!

  123. Jupi says:

    Sting is playing in Belgium @ Suikerrock. This one day festival is on july 27. So i guess Sting can be added to the rumours?

  124. enzo says:

    What about Atoms for Peace, they’ll be on Pohoda festival which is smaller venue and it’s quite close to Sziget. (but I think it’s in July) but anyway it would be nice to have Tom Yorke and Flea on Sziget!!!

  125. Joep says:

    Tenacious D, Imagine Dragons, Awolnation, Kodaline, Jonathan Jeremiah and more for announced for Frequency! (Aug 15-17 Austria)

  126. thexx says:

    Florence and the Machine confirmed got Coke festival in Krakow 9-10.August. This looks like a sure shot

  127. theshipscat says:

    Florence and the Machine – as a headliner? :( – Noooooooooo!

  128. Joep says:

    Last year at this time, we already had 3 headliners confirmed..

  129. Crazyfrog says:

    … and we were pretty unhappy with them!

    so I prefer waiting for good!

  130. diseasefire says:

    infected mushroom confirmed at tomorrowland on july 27-28 would be really dope

  131. apis says:

    Nine Inch Nails are playing in Hockenheim, Germany in the middle of August.

  132. adam clark says:

    Nine Inch Nails would be fantastic!

  133. apis says:

    They already played at Sziget in 2007 (I think), so there’s a chance they could be back.

  134. adam clark says:

    Here’s hoping they return!

    :)

  135. Ambassadeur says:

    Editors at arenal sound and at some german festival, time for sziget between them. Cross fingers

  136. Oh, I would LOVE to see NIN in Sziget again.
    I think there’s a chance if they’ll be in Europe in August.

  137. apis says:

    Portishead are playing European festivals in June.

  138. apis says:

    Franz Ferdinand are playing at Frequency Festival in Austria (15th-17th August).

  139. Joep says:

    Imagine dragons are playing Lowlands

  140. Crazyfrog says:

    My final bet:

    Headliners:
    - Blur (already announced)
    - Iron Maiden
    - Jamiroquai
    - Arctic Monkeys
    - Eminem

    Co headliners:
    - Editors (already announced)
    - Franz Ferdinand
    - Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds
    - Dizee Rascal (already announced)
    - Motorhead

    how does it sound?

  141. Iron Maiden will perform in Budapest in July with Anthrax.
    Venue: Budapest Park (part of Sziget Ltd.)
    There was a tweet yesterday from Anthrax, but now it’s deleted.

    So, it’s safe to say that we won’t see these two bands at Sziget.

  142. thexx says:

    Grape festival in Slovakia (around the corner from Budapest) on 9-10 August, has just announced The Drums, The Joy Formidable, Citizens! and The Big Pink.

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    Sigur Ros on Sziget….. I’d be so very, very happy if that would be true. These guys are brilliant!!!

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